Lonnie Plaxico talks
to 441 about his influences and the recording of Live at Jazz Standard.
Where
were you born?
I
was born in Chicago.
What were some of your favorite music
growing up?
The
first music I heard as a kid was soul music and R&B
and the Blues and gospel music and rock. My favorite
Groups were Earth Wind and Fire, Kool and the Gang,
The O’Jays, Mandrel, Rare Earth, and Donny Hathaway.
When I started working in nightclubs at 14 a friend
of mine in the band Larry Henderson who was a sax player
turned me on to John Coltrane and Charlie Parker. Those
were the first jazz musicians I heard. I also liked
Herbie Hancock & the Head Hunters, and Return to
Forever. I thought this was jazz but I soon realized
I had to go backwards to hear the music that came before
Fusion. The band I played with played all kind of music
but mostly popular jazz songs like “Killer Joe”
(Benny Golson) or “Memphis Underground”
(Herbie Mann) and “Bumping on Sunset” (Wes
Montgomery). I just played bass guitar at that time.
My friend Larry took me to hear live jazz when I was
16. That's when I went to the pawnshop the next day
to buy me a bass violin. That same night at the jazz
club I heard a guy name Bill Yancey playing the bass
and I asked him to teach me. He was my first teacher
on the bass violin.
How did you get started as
a musician?
I got started in music because I wanted to be like my
older brother so I watched what ever he did. He got
a drum set for Christmas and when we went over my grandparent's
house my cousin had a duo organ and drums and my brother
would sit in and I would tell my cousins, who were much
older then me, and my brother that I was going to play
bass. I was maybe 9 or 10 years old at that time. We
lived in the projects in Chicago so every one knew each
other in the building. My brother got in a band and
they played music in the recreation room. They always
had people listening to their band. I was fascinated
by what I saw and heard. I really loved the bass the
most. They would leave their equipment in my parent's
apartment. When no one was around I would sneak and
play the bass player's bass guitar. If they saw me I
would get in trouble. My parents noticed that I was
messing with that bass a lot, so when I was 12 they
got me my first bass guitar for Christmas. I was lucky
because I could see the bass player in that band all
the time. He moved into our home. His name was Derrick
Holmes. I wanted to be like him so I watched him play
all the time.
You have played with many
wonderful musicians. Do you have fond memories of playing
with someone that you would like to share with us?
Everyone I played with was good for me. It’s strange
because in NYC a musician doesn't get much time to reflect
on the last gig you had because you are off working
with others soon after. I haven't really sat down and
thought about all the musicians I’ve worked for
but I remember a lot about what they taught me and said
to me. I learned a lot from the other musicians in the
band like Mulgrew Miller and Terrence Blanchard when
I worked with Art Blakey and Greg Osby when I worked
with Jack DeJohnnete.
Your new release, Live
at Jazz Standard from 441 Records, is an
energetic showcase for your band. What do you like most
about the album?
I’m not one to talk about what I like about my
music. I do like playing my music and am trying to write
better music all the time. I think most musicians aren't
satisfied with their CDs because we always want to do
better, and most of the time unless you have a working
band you can’t get the music to the level you
know it could be on. I am happy with my CD but whenever
I listen to my recording I always feel I wanted it to
be much better, although I like the style of music on
my CD and the openness to play with the other musicians
on this CD.
Was there anything unique
about the specific performances of each song selected
for the album? Is there a favorite track of yours on
the album?
I just try to write the music that I hear inside my
mind and soul and things I’m working on in my
playing. I never think of any thing I do as unique.
That's up to you the listener to decide if a musician
is unique or not. I like performing all the songs on
this CD.
Can
you tell us more about each of your band members; how
you met them, what do you like about them, … etc.?
Marcus
Strickland and I met when he was 21 while he was still
in college. He's a very good musician who's working
on his own music and band. I know from the way he thinks
he will be someone who will find his own voice on the
saxophone in a matter of time. I can hear his sound
now when I hear his CDs. Alex Norris is a solid trumpet
player and a hard worker. He plays good solos. I can
depend on him to do a good job. All the guys in my band
are open to playing all kind of music. Lionel Cordew
is also a solid musician. He has a good pocket and is
always looking to learn more about music. I can pretty
much say the same about all the guys in the band. Martin
Bejerano was a replacement on this CD. He had my music
for 9 days and played like he was a part of my band
for some time. I’m happy what he brought to the
music. Kahlil Kwame Bell is a great percussionist. I
trust what he is playing and just let him come up with
the parts he hears in the music. He’s studied
a lot of music.
Who’s
influences do you find in your original compositions?
I guess I would have to say everyone from my childhood
up until the jazz musicians I listen to now. I would
have to put Wayne Shorter name at the top but the grooves
I hear when I write music come from my R&B influences.
I’m really listening to gospel music now as I
did long ago because I like the passion the musicians
have and the dedication the bands have in gospel music
and the arrangements they write. Many people might find
that strange but gospel music was played before what
was named jazz music.
To be meaningful to you, what do you need a song to
express?
Feeling.
What do you find challenging
in your role as musical director (Lonnie was musical
director for Cassandra Wilson) or as bandleader?
As a musical director you are responsible for someone
else’s music so you have to understand what that
person wants and try to get along with all the musicians
in the band to get the best out of them and try to add
something to the sound of the band through arrangements.
If you pick the right musicians, there's not that much
to do or say. Being a bandleader can be a nightmare
because now you are asking someone to give you and the
other guys in your band a gig. As a sideman, it’s
just you. If you are performing outside NYC now you
are asking a club to pay for your flights and hotels
and your fee. I know a lot of musicians tell me they
want to do their own thing or play the music they like.
I know right away this is a person who doesn't have
a band. If a musician wants to have a working band they
have to sell CD's and fill the seats in a venue. Being
a bandleader is the hardest thing I've ever done in
the music business. You can practice all day and be
a good musician but I think when a person becomes a
bandleader it's called business music not music business
anymore.
What direction do you want to take your band in from
this point? Are there any new “territories”
you would like to explore?
I want just want to find a way to play the music I like
and reach more people and keep challenging myself and
my band members, but really find a way to write music
that everyone can enjoy.
How do you see jazz evolving?
I think it has to evolve because the people who are
now coming out to clubs to hear the music are a lot
younger and most like all kinds of music. A musician
who was playing in the 1940’s or 1950’s
was playing to an audience that heard music from that
time. Today if someone is 23 to 40 and they come to
a jazz club most don't know much from the ‘50s.
I was born in 1960 and I never heard jazz music. Some
musicians have parents that play jazz music so they
have been around it all their life but when you look
at teenagers and their high school life, it's all about
what music is happening at the time of their life. When
I was in high school I heard Billy Paul and the Spinners
on the radio and the music from the ‘70s. I think
if a musician wanted to reach more people they should
play music that not only reflects on many generations
but play them the way they hear them. I love playing
Stevie Wonder’s music as much as I love playing
Cole Porter.
Which musicians or what albums by other musicians have
you been listening to lately?
Coltrane & Miles. I have so much music already.
I do buy a lot of the younger artist’s music but
I keep going back to the older stuff. I really like
gospel musicians a lot, how their CDs are made and the
energy. I’m trying to find out how to put that
in to my writing and band sound.
What do you do to unwind
or relax besides music?
I love cooking.
Finally, do you have any
advice to jazz musicians who are starting their careers?
If you are in high school and plan on going to college
for music, my advice is to go to college in a major
city. NYC is my # 1 choice for any musician who really
wants to have a career in music. Learn from whoever
and whatever and have fun.