Jerry Hey talks to
441 about working on Birdland and AfroBlue
Masanori Sasaji
and Jerry Hey share a toast
Where
were you born?
Dixon, Illinois
How did you get started as a musician
/ arranger?
My father played trombone and my mother played piano.
I also have two
older brothers who played brass instruments, so there
was music
around the house all the time. I began playing trumpet
at a very early
age, and studied to be a professional musician. then
when I was with
Seawind, we moved to Los Angeles, where we played every
Tuesday for a
couple years at the Baked Potato. Soon after that Quincy
Jones heard
about the horn section and called us in on one of his
recordings. From
that point on Quincy was responsible for my being an
arranger. he
gave me the freedom to try anything and taught me what
did and didn’t
work, and how I could improve on what I had done.
How did you get involved with
the Sasaji projects, Birdland and Afro Blue?
Akira Yada called and asked if I would be interested
in contracting the musicians for the recording and it
just grew from there.
What did you find exciting about these projects?
New arrangements were written of great standard jazz
songs played by some of my favorite players in Los Angeles.
On the Birdland project the arrangements included some
woodwinds which also gave it a Gil Evans touch.
You are a prolific arranger in
your own right. What did you find interesting or challenging
about Masanori Sasaji’s big band arrangements?
He wrote some very unusual voicings and lines that really
challenged not only me, but all the players as well.
How did you select the musicians?
Everyone that I called for this project I have worked
with in the studios on other occasions, and I knew that
they would give their best performances. Also I consider
all of them friends and I believe that helps give a
family atmosphere to a recording session.
What were the reactions or impressions of the musicians
involved with the two projects?
I had some comments from some of the players that they
really liked some of the unusual approaches to these
tunes. Different harmonies and rhythmic styles helped
give new life to many of the tunes.
Can you tell us about performances by
these musicians that really stood out in your mind?
On the Birdland CD I really love Richard Page’s
vocal. To know that it was truly live with the band
and no overdubs just shows what a great singer he really
is. Also Vinnie Colaiuta is always a standout, and especially
so on this CD. Ernie Watts; solos really had the everyone
in the band listening to what incredible phrases he
would pull off next. Brandon Fields, Dan Higgins, Andy
Martin all had some great features which highlighted
the Afro Blue CD, along with the rhythm section with
Peter Erskine, Dave Carpenter, Paul Jackson and percussionist
Lenny Castro.
What did you find challenging
in conducting the band?
The most challenging was to make sure that I got the
essence of the arrangements, along with all the nuances
that were written, and conveyed that to the band. tempos,
ritards, dynamics all were regarded with the utmost
care in order to bring out all the great moments of
each arrangement.
What did you do differently from working on
Birdland to Afro Blue?
Afro Blue was more challenging because we recorded it
in a live situation. We basically played a set a songs
in order, then repeated it again and then took a break,
just like at a nightclub. We had an audience so we were
playing not only for the recording but also for the
people that were there to listen and enjoy the music.
Also Birdland was recorded by Allen Sides at Ocean Way
studio so his expertise was appreciated there making
the recording aspect of Birdland very easy. With Afro
Blue there were two rooms recording the songs and I
had to make sure each room had the proper balance between
the instruments, especially since the band was set up
similar to alive situation with no isolation between
the rhythm and the horns.
What are your favorite tracks
from Birdland and Afro Blue? Why?
I love Birdland with Ernie’s solo and the horns
at full throttle toward the end. I also like the rhythm
groove of Afro Blue and Brandon’s solos on that
as well. Can you share with us some of your favorite
memories from the making of these two albums?
Good music, with good players, in a good studio, and
a good engineer makes lots of memories for all involved.
We had a lot of fun ironing out all the intricacies
of the arrangements and then had a glass of wine to
celebrate after it was recorded. What more can you want?
How do you see big band music
evolving?
Newer technology such as super audio can help to record
a big band’s full dynamic range. Also the recordings
and arrangements need to reflect the times with a more
powerful and present influence from the rhythm section.
What projects are you working on now?
I recently have done a big band project for a 16 year
old singer/trumpet player/dancer for Virgin UK. He is
doing some newer type songs as well as some classics,
all with a big band - basically the same guys that are
on Birdland and Afro Blue. I also have just recorded
some strings and horns for a Sony artist named Lemar.
I think this is his second CD, the first being released
in England last year. Jamiroquai will be coming to LA
to record and work with the horns. He has listened to
a lot of what I have done in the past and hopefully
I’ll be putting a few new twists on some of his
songs. There is a movie coming out called Polar Express
that I will be working on. Alan Silvestri and Glenn
Ballard have written some songs for it and I will be
writing some big band arrangements of those.