Grady Tate talks about life and the making
of Grady Tate Sings: All Love
Grady Tate with Paul Bollenback on guitar performing
at the
J&R Jazzfest in NYC,
22 August 2003
Recap how the project came about: "I do
lots of Japanese recordings on drums. I do 15 to 20
per year, sometimes more than that. On one of the projects,
I can’t remember what it was, (for) this alto saxophonist.
The producer asked me if I would do a vocal on it and
I agreed to do it, for a nominal fee. And I was doing
another project with Eighty-Eight and he said, “Would
you like to do a CD while I’m here?” “Sure why not?”
It was just that simple. I didn’t go looking for it,
I didn’t ask anybody for anything. Eighty-Eight said
“Ah Grady-san, you want to do it.”
Any memorable aspects: "Working
with the musicians that I chose is foremost in my head
in terms of enjoyment. Kenny Baron is just not to be
believed. It’s the bed that everyone would love to lie
upon, to rest upon. Kenny Baron is just unbelievable.
Frank West, and everybody on there was just wonderful.
I really just had a ball."
How did you meet everyone involved
with the project: "I’ve known those people
for thirty, forty years. We worked together on many
different projects and every conceivable kind of environment
where jazz is involved. And we’ve hung out, we’ve got
wreaked together. We’ve gone to hear other artists and
put them down, “Hey man what are you doing?” We’d get
wrecked and put people down, build em’ back up. These
are my friends, partners in crime."
Give us your thoughts on the U.S.
market as it pertains to your new album: "It’s
very difficult for a jazz artist to become successful
in terms of financial benefit. I don’t know what the
actual number is, when a jazz artist makes a CD or prior
to that an album. If that artist sold 40,000 pieces
it was a smash, it was a hit! First of all, in most
areas of the country it’s hard to find a jazz station,
and once you can get the jazz stations you know there
is no following, there’s no place to hear them. Nobody
wants to pay them to come in, unless they’re Herbie,
you know? That’s another ball game entirely. Herbie
plays all kinds of things; he’s an extraordinary human
being because he thinks that way. Once given the opportunity
from having worked with Miles and all of that he had
a strong financial base on which to rest. He said, “Hey,
I’m going to do what so many other people in the business
have done. I’m gonna write some hits.” It’s incredible.
I appreciate him for doing that. I admire the ability
that he has to go in and out. So, you know, I don’t
know, you just do them and hope they sell.
"See what I did on this CD is
I changed my approach to things. I've been trying to
do something that didn’t come naturally to me. I tried
to do some things that were soulful. Now I’m extremely
soulful, but not in the way that soulfulness is usually
expected. My soulfulness is how I interpret a line,
and have that line play something to somebody that gets
deep inside them without them going “YEAH!” You know
you can go "woah, yeah, hum, that’s enough"
and I chose not to play jazzy rhythm. I didn’t want
the rhythm to sound jazzy. Disguised like in the ballads,
I did things that suggested a bossa nova thing or a
straight eight thing with brushes. Nothing obtrusive.
I chose to keep everything in the same genre, same groove.
And our next project is going to be the same thing.
But it’s going to add other colors to it. I would like
to do things with a pure Latin groove. Like Eddie Palmari
- that’s who I want to work with, and find that real
quiet, quiet soul of his, and that’s what I’m looking
towards now. I want that thing to happen. I want to
cross over into that groove. But keep my thing going,
so I think it can work and I’m thinking about it all
the time."
Was this title available in other
counties: "It was available in Japan, and it
did well. When I was there on tour with The 100 Gold
Fingers – 10 pianists, Bob Crenshaw and I. We
did concerts with the entire group and then on off-nights
Bob and I would go with 1 or 2 pianists to another venue
and we’d work with them. As a result I had no nights
off on the entire trip. I was totally wreaked when I
got back. We did things with Benny Greene, and it was
such a groove and at the end of this thing the people
were there. Benny Greene was the one who was announced
“The Benny Greene Trio.” After the concert I took the
little funny stuff I had on off and put some jeans on.
The owner said to me “Grady-san will you come down here
and sign some CDs?” I thought why would I want to sign
a Benny Greene CD, but sure if they want, I’ll do it.
I went down to where they were having the autograph
signing and I saw about 30 people lined up at this table,
and each of them had “All Love” so that gave me a boost.
I said “Oh… All right.." So I signed it "Benny
Greene" (Laughing) Only kidding."
Who are your biggest influences?
"Ah… I don’t know… Everybody I ever heard.
All the great jazz artists were my influences. I started
listening to the radio even before I knew about it at
4 or 5 years old. I knew tunes and I wasn’t aware of
it. Given the opportunity I could sing a complete tune.
The first tune I did I was reared on a property that
was adjacent to the University of North Carolina, at
that time it was North Carolina College for Negros.
I was always hanging out looking, listening, and playing.
They had this amateur show they were doing and it was
where I hold my annual Grady Tate Jazz Festival. That
is the first time I had ever seen a drum set. A trio,
they played for the different contestants. The guy said,
"all right, is there anybody else out there that
wants to try out for this?" Nobody said anything.
My mother and father got up and they started out to
the left, and I got up and went out to the right, and
I walked up there and the guy said “Hello little boy.”
I said “Hello.” He said, “Why you up here?” I said,
“I want to sing.” And he said, “Ladies and gentlemen,
not yet! not yet! We have one more contestant.” And
I was too short for the microphone, so I was standing
on a chair and they lifted the microphone a little.
So I started singing “The One Rose” (starts singing
the first verse) and everyone started applauding, and
the guy comes out saying “You win! You get 3rd place!”
So I won a crate of RC Cola, I haven’t had an RC Cola
since. But I knew I had to do this. I just wanted to
do it. And I’ve never been afraid of anything. I don’t
care who's out there. That’s one of the reasons I became
a well-known drummer, because I wasn’t afraid of anybody.
I didn’t study to become a studio drummer, one of the
busiest drummers in the world, one of the most recorded.
I didn’t study to do that. I didn’t know anything about
that. But when I got into it and I saw what it was,
I said, “I can do this.” I was so quick; I read very
well. I read everything. I can read music like flash
it, I read it like that. I was able to adjust so quickly,
and it was fun to me. All the other cats... man “Oh
that’s pressure… You gotta read...” It didn’t frighten
me. I don’t think I’ve ever been afraid of anything
in my life, other than not having a good time."
Is there a song that you have yet
to record that you have always wanted to recreate or
that may hold special meaning for you: "No,
every time I sing I find good songs that I’ve always
loved and I don’t say "this is my favorite"
cause that would be a lie. It’s a favorite for right
now."
Are you planning a tour for the
U.S.: "I’m hoping so. I play all the time.
I play all the time. I do my festival
and all that. Those things are yearly. I go to Japan
two, three times a year. Those things happen. I’d like
to be able to set up two weeks out of every month to
do jazz vocals. Singing, clubs and venues. I don’t know
where they are because they are hard to find. But I’d
like for this thing to happen in a matter that would
expose me to certain things that may be hard out there
now. That’s why I’m thinking of incorporating different
sounds with what I have to offer vocally. So hey, I’d
like to work a lot of places."
How did you get started in the music
business: "When I was five and I saw that set
of drums. And I sang so that kind of satisfied that
craving. This was in August or September. I said, "Dad,
you know what I want for Christmas?" He said, "What?"
"A set of drums." He said, "Oh yeah,
O.K." I never mentioned it again; I forgot about
it. On Christmas day, I go downstairs and there’s a
set of Pearl drums. I was the only kid in the city who
had a set of drums. My dad sent to New York to get a
set of drums. My parents did me all my life, anything
I wanted they would get it for me. They gave me love,
concern and confidence. So I became the rhythm band
king… there’s Grady."
Who's your favorite 441 Artist:
"I was in Durham, North Carolina last week taking
care of my father. He has been in a rehab center for
the past year. I had to move my father from that rehab
center and took him home. I was not living at our home
place, I had a room in the Marriott Hotel. I was quite
tired so I turned the radio on. I know that North Carolina
Central has one of the great jazz radio shows in this
country. I turned that station on and who was there
was Joe Chambers. I listened to it and I enjoyed Joe’s
CD."
JUST
THE FACTS:
Birth Place/Date: Durham, NC
January 14, 1932
Major Accomplishments:
• Lived this long
• Enjoy life
• Learn to how to deal with whatever comes your
way. To make it a positive thing for yourself and for
those who are in your immediate environment. That has
been one of the more difficult things, but I’ve done
it quite successfully and I’m very proud of it.
• Learned to sing, and I learned to sing about
things that I love and the things that I love are direct
derivatives of the whole love thing. So that’s an accomplishment
within itself. Cause I tried that hate thing and it
doesn’t work.
Personal
Hobbies : Drums and singing are hobbies enough
for me. Each of them ordinarily demands a whole lifetime
of concentration and I don’t do it because I can do
it, I do it basically because I enjoy doing it. I think
about it all the time. So those are my hobbies, those
are my accomplishments. Those are the things that have
directed me and propelled me all my life.
Education: North Carolina Central University
BA English Literature & Drama, minor in Psychology
Honorary Doctorate in Special
Education
Lecturer in
Jazz Studies at Howard University since 1989.